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Where is Caylee Anthony?

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That is the question that's burning in the minds of people across America.

Caylee and her mother, Casey, lived with her grandmother Cindy and grandfather George Anthony for three years, before Casey moved out with her daughter on June 9, 2008. (now the 15th) Caylee would be three in August, 2008.

In early June, Casey Anthony told her mother she was being sent to Tampa for work and would be back in a few days. Later, she said she was going on a "mini-vacation" with friends and taking Caylee with her. Cindy Anthony never thought much of it.

Cindy Anthony wanted to pick Caylee up to have her spend the night, as she hadn't seen her for over a month.

When she went to see her daughter, Casey, she expected to see Caylee with her. Casey told her that Caylee was with a babysitter and not to disturb her as she would be in bed by the time she got there.

Cindy Anthony insisted that she see Caylee and had a gut feeling that something wasn't right in her daughter's voice. When Casey told her mother "No", Cindy called the police department.

Casey Anthony reported Caylee missing Wednesday, July 16th, only after Cindy Anthony urged her to contact authorities.

Then the lies started to unveil themselves.

Casey told authorities that she had dropped Caylee off with a baby sitter, Zenaida Gonzalez, on June 9th, but that she was gone when she went to pick her up. Gonzalez said she'd never met either mother or daughter. On top of that, the apartment where she said she dropped her off had been vacant since last February.

Casey Anthony told detectives she worked at Universal Studios and identified people who could vouch for her... another lie.

"I had no reason to believe they weren't where they were supposed to be," Cindy Anthony said. "I don't know why she fabricated this."

One of the neighbors reported that Casey had borrowed a shovel about a month ago, so an investigative team came in along with cadaver dogs to search the grandparent's backyard. Nothing was found at this point.

Caylee's grandparents had been "very cooperative" in the investigation, according to Sgt. John Allen. The sheriff's office said the search of their property in no way implicated them in the case.

Casey Anthony was arrested Wednesday on charges of child neglect and providing false information to law enforcement. She showed no emotion Thursday as she was ordered held without bond at the Orange County Jail.

The judge scolded the mother, saying she had "no regret or concern for her actions."

"You left your 2-year-old child with a person who does not exist at an apartment you cannot identify and you lied to your parents about your child's whereabouts," Judge John Jordan said. "You cared so little about your child."

He ordered a mental health evaluation be done on Anthony.

Casey Anthony's car, belonging to her parents, was towed from a parking lot after it had been sitting there for several days.

The car or the parking lot might hold the only clues right now. The white 1998 Pontiac GT had a horrid stench in it, which could indicate evidence of a body. Caylee's mother apparently abandoned her car in the parking lot earlier in the week.

When Caylee's grandparents found out two or three days later, it was then they also found out Caylee was missing and asked the sheriff's office to investigate. It is unclear, though, why Casey left her car sitting in the parking lot.

The car is now being processed by the proper authorities.

Casey Anthony is "lawyered up" now, and her lawyer says she's co-operating, although investigators disagree.

Anyone with information about Caylee is asked to call Crimeline at 1-800-423-8477.

Resources....

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-bk-caylee-anthony-missing-071708,0,5409824.story

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2008/07/fla-police-dig.html

http://www.wftv.com/news/16924162/detail.html

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09-07-09

More Documents And Hearings

They're the interviews Casey Anthony's defense team did not want you to hear. Bounty hunter Leonard Padilla and his band of bodyguards were with Casey 24 hours a day after she bonded out of jail the first time and now they're recalling everything she said.

The FBI conducted the interviews in September 2008, but the defense just lost its fight to keep the more than three hours of audio-taped interviews from being released.

Bodyguard Tracy McLaughlin says Casey was concerned about what to wear when she walked past TV cameras and that, even though Caylee was missing and she was a suspect, Casey was unemotional and uninvolved in the search for Caylee and uninterested in anyone but herself.

Cute pictures of Caylee Marie Anthony came out with the new evidence Friday, but the woman who guarded Casey right after she got out of jail said Casey had no interest in Caylee.

"She comes in happy as could be. Says, 'Hey, hi.' Gives me a hug. Says she wants to take a shower. Not a word about Caylee. She said, 'I want to take a shower," McLaughlin told investigators during an interview on September 19, 2008.

McLaughlin says Casey never cried about Caylee, but she giggled about an online flirtation and even flirted with McLaughlin's associate.

"She goes, 'I put on eye makeup today for when we play the sunglass game,'" McLaughlin told investigators.

The 'game' was taking off her sunglasses and looking at McLaughlin's associate through the rearview mirror as he drove her to her attorney's office.

McLaughlin says she was stunned by Casey's stone-cold reaction to a finding that air in her trunk showed signs of human decomposition.

"They said, 'Yeah, the samples came back, decomposition, and she said, looked at the TV and goes, 'A lot of people had access to that car,'" McLaughlin told investigators.

Casey had an even colder reaction to the finding that hair consistent with hers and Caylee's came from a dead body.

"She goes, 'Well, I'm alive,'" McLaughlin told investigators.

Casey surprised McLaughlin during a conversation about how drugs in high doses can knock you out. McLaughlin mentioned ether.

"She said, 'Or chloroform,'" McLaughlin told investigators.

That was before any reports about finding traces of chloroform in the trunk or her computer searches about the potentially deadly chloroform.

Casey also joked about raising defense money by autographing photos or going on the radio with Howard Stern, but said he'd want to know her lingerie sizes and whether she and Baez were having sex.

Read more details here and click on links for the interviews...

http://www.wftv.com/news/20723700/detail.html

Two Hearings This Week

The civil case against Casey Anthony heads to court twice this week.

On Tuesday an Orange County judge is set to hear a motion to dismiss the defamation complaint. A woman named zenaida Gonzalez is suing because Casey Anthony told investigators a baby-sitter with that name kidnapped her daughter Caylee.

On Wednesday attorneys for Zenaida Gonzalez will be back in court. They want George and Cindy Anthony to answer more questions in their depositions. They also want to hold private investigator Dominic Casey in contempt of court for not appearing for his deposition.

Anthony has pleaded not guilty on charges that she killed her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Marie , claiming a babysitter named Zenaida Gonzalez kidnapped her toddler. Caylee was last seen in June of 2008, but she was not reported missing until a month later. Her remains were found in woods near the family's home in December.

Full Resource...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/090709casey_civil_case_hearings

09-03-09

Forgery Trial To Proceed

Judge Stan Strickland ruled that the forgery trial can move forward before Casey Anthony's murder trial.

The defense argued that having the forgery trial go first would hamper their ability to adequately prepare for the murder trial.

Anthony is accused of stealing nearly $700 from her friend, Amy Huizenga, through stolen checks. Even though she's paid the money back she still faces check fraud charges..

The state offered the affidavit of Amy Huizenga, which states that the duration of this legal process over the last year has caused her a great deal of mental stress.

Additionally, she indicated that her name appears on the internet in connection with this case and that causes her great embarrassment.

Finally, she is fearful that this will hurt her chances for gainful employment given her involvement with Casey Anthony.

After considering all of the factors and arguments by counsel the court felt that the best resolution is to set the matter for trial in the near future.

Judge Strickland felt that case was rather simple and few witnesses would be called. The trial shouldn't take more that a day or two.

The defense argued that the problem will be jury selection which may be protracted.

The Court felt that wasn't sufficient reason to delay the trial, and, the state offered to go "non-jury", with a simple bench trial.

The Court will be setting a trial date soon.

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http://www.docstoc.com/docs/10718126/Forgery-Trial--To-Move-Ahead-in-Casey-Anthony-Case

08-29-09

Tim Miller To Be Material Witness

Timothy Miller, a representative for Texas Equusearch, an organization dedicated to searching for and recovering missing persons, has been named a material witness in the case.

Documents of the 32 TES searchers have been subpoenaed and are to be disclosed to both the State and the Defense.

These documents are part of the ongoing evidence in the Casey Anthony case.

Anthony has pleaded not guilty on charges that she killed her daughter, 2-year-old Caylee Marie , claiming a babysitter kidnapped her toddler. Caylee was last seen in June of 2008, but she was not reported missing until a month later. Her remains were found in woods near the family's home in December.

On July 7, 2009 Orange County Circuit Judge Stan Strickland canceled the planned October 2009 trial date for the State vs. Casey Anthony and scheduled a pretrial hearing for January 21, 2010, at 10:00 a.m., with plans for a trial date sometime during the summer of 2010.

Casey's defense was seeking to silence bounty hunter Leonard Padilla. His crew provided security inside the Anthony home when Casey was out on bail.

Casey's lawyers argued that what Padilla saw and heard in the home was privileged information, But Judge Stan Strickland disagreed in his ruling, saying they're free to speak in TV and in court.

Resources...

http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/082709_Win_for_Casey_Anthony_defense

http://wdbo.com/localnews/2009/08/judge-in-casey-anthony-case-ru.html

08-24-09

Emotional Hearing

Casey Anthony was back in court Friday and, for the first time in months, Casey was there and she couldn't hold back tears. Casey Anthony's attorneys filed several motions heard by Judge Stan Strickland, which included keeping the prosecution from taking Casey's check fraud case to court and being able to treat the EquuSearch founder and searchers as a witnesses.

Casey walked into the courtroom around 9:40am wearing a blue, long-sleeve shirt and a pair of grey pants. She was not nearly as happy-looking as previous court appearances where she was smiling and seemingly upbeat.

Casey saw her parents for the first time in three months when she entered the courtroom. George and Cindy Anthony were all smiles before the hearing started at 9:45am.

Also in court were Casey's attorneys, Jose Baez, Todd Macaluso and Andrea Lyons, and EquuSearch founder Timothy Miller's attorney Mark NeJame, as well as a team of state prosecutors.

Casey's attorney asked the judge to allow her attorneys to interview the head of EquuSearch, claiming his testimony could prove her innocence.

Defense attorneys for Casey Anthony argued that testimony should be taken from the head of Texas EquuSearch, Timothy Miller, about the search for Anthony's toddler daughter, Caylee. The searchers looked near woods where the toddler's body eventually was found in December. They also asked to be allowed to review records on thousands of volunteers who participated in the searches for the little girl last summer and fall.

They hoped that testimony would show it would have been impossible for Anthony to dispose of the 2-year-old girl's body in the woods because she was arrested and in jail two months before the discovery of Caylee's remains.

"There is substantial evidence that we've found ... that the body or remains of Caylee Anthony was placed there after Casey Anthony was locked up," attorney Todd Macaluso argued. "It proves that somebody else placed the remains in the area."

The attorney for EquuSearch, Mark NeJame, said the request was too broad and would create "a tremendous chilling effect" on volunteers for future searches. He said defense attorneys should only be given information on 32 volunteers who searched the area where the body later was found.

Miller held a press conference Thursday with attorney Mark Nejame to show some of the photographs he took in the area where Caylee Anthony's body was later found (photos released) in an attempt to disprove the defense's theory that the body was dumped after Casey was jailed.

WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer says it'll be a hard sell to a jury that the mystery killer took great pains to keep secrets until November, after EquuSearch left, then killed Caylee and went to the area which posed the greatest risk of getting caught to hide her body, Caylee's neighborhood, where the media and law enforcement were often focused.

"Not only does it not raise reasonable doubt, it just defies logic. So the defense is gonna have a problem in that area," Sheaffer said.

Circuit Judge Stan Strickland said he would make a ruling by next week.

"My intention on the EquuSearch records is to grant your motion in some form, I just need to think about what that needs to be," Strickland said.

Casey's attorneys also argued that Anthony's comments to a bail bondsmen should not be allowed at the trial. Casey Anthony's father, George, testified about how bondsmen led by Leonard Padilla were hired to post her $50,000 bond last year.

George Anthony took the stand under oath around 10:45am to answer questions from Jose Baez (watch raw video). The courtroom camera then showed that Casey had begun to cry, wiping tears away with a tissue.

After a few questions from Baez about security guards involved in the case and bounty hunter Leonard Padilla, the prosecution questioned George, asking if he was aware of the fact that Padilla paid the $50,000 for Casey's bail. George said he was not aware and the prosecution expressed surprise that he wouldn't have known that.

The prosecution then pressed George on the security that was provided at their home after Casey's release.

"They bonded our daughter out of jail and secured our house ... that's the bottom line," George said. "They were at my house for numerous amount of days ... protecting us and my daughter."

"You're categorizing that as security only?" a prosecuting attorney asked, which George affirmed.

George stepped down from the stand just before 11:00am and gestured a sign of support toward a still visibly upset Casey, mouthing "I love you," and sat down in the courtroom audience.

The reason George's testimony is relevant is the defense is trying to claim Padilla and his employees were providing security for Casey, while also providing legal services somehow, so that information they have divulged to investigators is really privileged information that shouldn't enter into the case or into the public arena.

The defense had also made a request for phone calls made by Casey's ex-boyfriend, Tony Lazzaro (read Lazzaro motion). The judge did allow defense attorneys to have cell phone records from June 1, 2008 to Dec. 18, 2008. The calls were monitored by law enforcement after Casey Anthony's arrest in July.

Meanwhile, the judge said he will rule at a later time on a court date for Casey's check fraud case, something the defense filed a motion to get delayed until after the murder trial.

"I just want to let you guys know that it was awesome to see my daughter today. It's been a long time since I've seen her and it just gives me a lot of peace to see that she actually looks okay and she looks healthy and that's important to me," Cindy Anthony said while leaving the courthouse after the hearing."I think they're absurd, tack them onto, just put them on the [list of] ridiculous accusations that have been made in this case," attorney Jose Baez said after the hearing when asked how he feels about state accusations that he doctored signed documents in the case

Resource article frtom WFTV... Check out the article, images and videos!!!

http://www.wftv.com/news/20490968/detail.html

08-21-09

George Anthony Barges Into News Conference

There were some tense moments Thursday afternoon in the case against Casey Anthony when Casey's father barged into a news conference with his former lawyer and the man who tried to find his granddaughter.

"It was all a big misunderstanding," George Anthony said Thursday.

The news conference was held Thursday afternoon ahead of a court hearing Friday and it all involves Tim Miller, the leader of EquuSearch.

Casey's defense team is trying to use Miller to say Caylee's body could have been dumped in the east Orange County woods where it was found after Casey was already in jail.

The Anthonys have left a trail of broken relationships and Orlando attorney Mark NeJame, who worked for them for free, and Texas EquuSearch founder Tim Miller, who brought his non-profit to Orlando to search for Caylee at Cindy's request, are among them.

Thursday, George barged into NeJame's office, uninvited, past reception, to the conference room at the end of a news conference with Miller.

"I need to see you now," George Anthony said as he stormed into the news conference Thursday.

EquuSearch founder Tim Miller was surprised when George barged in, demanding to see his former attorney, Mark NeJame, in NeJame's own office. They went behind closed doors and, minutes later, the Anthonys' current attorney, Brad Conway, rushed in without saying anything and joined NeJame and George.

It happened minutes after NeJame and Miller showed photographs of the scene taken on November 7 where Caylee Anthony's remains were found more than a month later. Miller says he and 32 of his volunteers could not search the exact spot in November where Caylee's remains were later found because there was standing water (see photos).

"I said, my big fear is that if she is deceased, we're looking for a tiny little skeleton and if it's under the water we're gonna have a four-wheeler drive over it, a horse step on it, or even a human and push it in the mud," Miller explained Thursday.

Miller says they just found the photographs and are releasing them to investigators the day before they go to court to fight Casey Anthony's motion to get EquuSearch records for all the volunteers who came to search as well as all communications between EquuSearch and law enforcement.

After about an hour behind closed doors, George and NeJame came out to say they had cleared up a misunderstanding that started with a call that defense attorney Jose Baez made to George on Thursday, but wouldn't say what it was about.

"How are you supposed to live through this and counteract all this stuff?" George said.

George says he just wants to know what happened to Caylee, he just wants answers, but he apparently doesn't want the answers he's gotten so far from investigators and the answers he's gotten from his daughter Casey don't make any sense.

George and Casey will see each other at the courthouse on Friday for the first time in three months at the next hearing.

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08-07-09

More Docs Released Friday

More documents were released in the Caylee Anthony murder, today. They include images of trash collected as evidence and a T-shirt similar to one worn by Anthony's 2-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony. The T-shirt says "Big Trouble Comes in Small Packages."

The documents released Friday by the state attorney's office also include a report on Casey Anthony's cell phone use. Detectives used her cell phone pings to track her whereabouts around the time that her daughter disappeared.

Casey Anthony has been charged in the girl's death. She has pleaded not guilty and says a baby sitter kidnapped her toddler.

Prosecutors say they will seek the death penalty if she is convicted of first-degree murder.

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http://www.wftv.com/news/20316176/detail.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_break&ts=T&tmi=orlc_break_1_09320108072009

07-30-09

More Than 1,000 Pages of New Documents Released

More than a thousand pages of documents have been released in the state's case against Casey Anthony, the central Florida mother charged in her daughter's death.

The information included reports of unconfirmed Caylee Anthony sightings; FBI requests for polygraph tests of witnesses; and records of Casey's ex-fiancé, who was enrolled in the police training program but resigned in 2008 for personal reasons.

There are also transcripts of interviews conducted with her parents, George and Cindy Anthony.

Casey's brother was questioned under oath Thursday by prosecutors about the murder case, which has been scheduled for some time in the summer of 2010.

Resources

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,535626,00.html

http://cbs4.com/local/casey.anthony.caylee.2.1107674.html

http://www.myfoxla.com/dpp/news/dpgo_casey_anthony_discovery_orl_fc_20090730_2711596

07-08-09

Trial Date Delayed

Prosecutors and Casey Anthony's defense team met with Judge Stan Strickland to discuss Casey's trial date. In the Tuesday morning meeting, Judge Strickland pushed back the original October 12 trial date to January 21, for a status slash pretrial.

Lawyers met with Circuit Judge Stan Strickland about Casey Anthony's trial schedule. They decided to meet again in January to figure out whether they'll be ready by next summer.

One reason for the delay is new defense team member Andrea Lyon's teaching schedule, which WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer says wouldn't go over well with a lot of judges.

Additionally, the judge said that he wants an affidavit from Amy Huizenga showing she wants to invoke her right to a speedy trial in the check fraud case that the prosecution wants to move forward on. Casey is charged with stealing her friend's checkbook and buying personal items with forged checks.

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http://www.wftv.com/news/19979145/detail.html?treets=orlc&tid=26510145878813&tml=orlc_break&tmi=orlc_break_1_10120107072009&ts=H

06-26-09

State Wants Fraud Trial First

Prosecutors filed a motion, Tuesday, asking that Casey Anthony go to trial on her Check Fraud charges before her, scheduled, October trial starts.

The charges include the fraudulent use of personal identification, forgery of a check and uttering a forged check.

Investigators say video released by the state attorney's office shows Casey Anthony purchasing items with stolen checks.

They say the purchases were made at a Winter Park Target store.  Casey is seen purchasing clothing and white sunglasses.  She's also seen buying a blue hoodie she wore when she was first arrested.

It's alleged that Anthony stole the checks from her friend Any Huizenga. Anthony had borrowed Huizenga car and the checks were missing from the car's glove compartment. Huizenga said she discovered, later, that her bank account had been emptied.

Deputies say a total of five checks, totaling hundreds of dollars, bore what appeared to be Casey's name and signature.

The checks were written just days before Anthony's arrest in connection with Caylee Anthony's disappearance.

Read resource details...

http://www.abcactionnews.com/news/local/story/State-wants-Casey-Anthony-fraud-trial-soon/xVQnTzYWp0qbZTuCBo3n5w.cspx

http://www.wftv.com/news/19825617/detail.html

06-20-09

Autopsy Results

Big Trouble Comes Small

The letters found mixed in with vegetative material that came from Caylee Anthony's t-shirt, "Big Trouble Comes Small", seem somewhat prophetic at this point.  The murderer will be seeing big trouble in action now, from a small 2-year-old speaking from the grave, as Caylee Anthony's autopsy results were released, Friday.

Not only was duct tape wrapped in layers over the mouth, but, around Caylee's head and NOSE!

Although chloroform evidence was found in areas of the truck of Casey's car, along with signs of decomposition, and searched for on Casey Anthony's computer, no drugs or chloroform were found in her remains. The examiner did state, however, that the results do not rule out Caylee's prior use and/or exposure to volatiles and/or drugs.

The medical examiner noted that considering the way Caylee's bones were scattered, they wouldn't expect the mandible (lower jaw) to still be attached unless the duct tape was put there before the decomposition started, as it was attached, also, to hair that formed into a matt on the base of the skull.

The skeletal remains were scattered, and disarticulated (separated), as there was no tissue left to hold them together. The examiner stated that the way the skeleton was dispersed indicated that the body was dumped during the early stages of decomposition, prior to complete skeletonization. The damage to the bones indicated that small animals scattered parts of the skeleton.

Roots were growing in her small bones for approximately four months. It's important to note that the bones would first need to be disarticulated, completely skeletonized, and then stabilized for roots to adhere to and grow into the bones.

A fall leaf layer covered many of the scattered bones indicating that the bones were dispersed  before the fall season of 2008.

The overall conclusion by the specialists is that the pattern of skeletal dispersal is consistent with the body of Caylee Anthony being dumped into the woods at the scene located on Suburban Drive during the early stages of decay, and before significant disarticulation occurred.

Caylee's body was dumped, in what some locals called the "pet cemetery", approximately six months before her remains were found and only a short distance from her home.

Pizza And Squirrel Test Results

Casey Anthony had stated, to a friend, that the bad smell in her car was from hitting dead squirrels. George and Cindy Anthony stated, over and over again, that the bad smell in the car was from rotten pizza. To satisfy those statements, scientists did in-depth tests on both.

No pizza was actually found in the trunk of Casey Anthony's Pontiac Sunfire, but pizza was tested at the University of Tennessee's Decay Research Facility and no maggots were found after the testing.

An adult squirrel (apparently a hit-and-run victim) was also tested, at the University of Tennessee Anthropology Dept. The tests, including air tests, showed only a small amount of maggot activity and odor as compared to the truck of Casey's car, and no sulfur compounds, chloroform or carbon tetrachloride.

NLH

For complete autopsy results and details...

Examination

FBI Lab Report

Forensic Report

06-18-09

Judge Seals Jailhouse Video

A judge ruled Wednesday to seal the jailhouse video of Casey Anthony on the day she learned a child's remains were found near her house. Judge Stan Strickland issued a 3-page order Wednesday to seal the video that was recorded on December 11.

"While the Court is loathe to shield any public record, an argument can certainly be made that the contents of the video are highly inflammatory," Judge Stan Strickland wrote in his order.

Casey's defense team had argued that their client's rights were violated when she was videotaped. The video in question reportedly shows Anthony doubling over and hyperventilating after learning her daughter's remains were found as she watched Channel 9.

"Her hands started to sweat. She started rubbing them profusely. She was in waist chains and handcuffs and she kept saying, 'The waist chains are getting tighter and tighter on me, please loosen them,'" Jail Lt. Tammy Unser told Detective Philip Graves during an interview on the afternoon of December 11.

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Defense attorney's argued that releasing the surveillance video would violate Anthony's right to privacy since it was filmed while she was in a medical office at the Orange County Jail, seeking medical treatment. Anthony's attorneys have alleged that her jailers worked with the Orange County Sheriff's Office to have the television news on in the medical office so Anthony's reaction could be recorded.

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http://www.wftv.com/news/19778853/detail.html

06-12-09

New Document Dump

A judge released nearly 1,000 pages of documents in the case against Casey Anthony Friday morning.

The documents contain new information on people who helped search for Caylee Anthony and also information about Casey's employment before Caylee disappeared.

The State Attorney's Office released a stack of documents with evidence that Casey Anthony worked at Universal Orlando, but not at the time when Caylee disappeared.

The documents also contain a transcript of an interview with Casey's friends, Michelle Murphy and Ricardo Morales, Sean Kraus who had conversations with Cindy and Joy Wray who was a part of the Equusearch team.

Wray became involved in the case just days after Caylee disappeared and told investigators she searched along Suburban Drive for the body because she had a, "Gut feeling." Wray said she looked around the area for clues at least 10 times, which is the same spot where Caylee's body was found on December 11.

Caylee Anthony's autopsy report was supposed to be among the documents released, but Judge Strickland ordered a temporary stay to delay it.

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http://www.wftv.com/news/19725145/detail.html

06-06-09

Disturbing Behavior By The Anthony's

After Caylee Anthony's remains were found, George Anthony had stated he couldn't even drive by that area. Now it is alleged that he, Cindy, and Dennis Milstead, of KidFinders were chasing down four woman who say the took a cell phone picture of Cindy taking a cross the women had placed at the memorial site, and putting it in the trunk of her car.

Lois Peter said that they would leave crosses in honor and remembreance of the slain 2-year-old, and they would be taken away.

"We found broken rosaries in the woods. We found broken crosses in the woods. It wasn't just taken away, it was destroyed," she said.

Click to listen to Peter's story...

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http://www.wftv.com/news/19637576/detail.html

Update on incident 06-08-09

No charges filed against Casey Anthony's parents

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/caylee-anthony/orl-bk-casey-anthony-parents-no-charges-060809,0,4060688.story

05-29-09

Casey Anthony Hearing

The main focus of Thursday's hearing was the jailhouse video showing Casey Anthony's reaction when a child's remains were found in the woods near her home. Jose Baez said the jailhouse video should be sealed permanently because making it public would be "cruel" and "inhumane." Judge Stan Strickland has delayed the decision on this motion, again.

Baez will get access to two private investigators and her family's phone records because they did not contest the motion.

Baez will not get the phone records from Casey's ex-fiancé, Jesse Grund, Casey's former friend Amy Huizenga and meter reader Roy Kronk, because they contested the motion to release the records.

Jose Baez may have tipped his hand on his defense strategy while fighting for access to the phone records of Casey's ex-fiancé.

"Mr. Grund was for all intense and purposes a suspect in this case," Baez stated in Court.

However, the sheriff's office never named Grund as a suspect in Caylee's disappearance or murder.

Kronk is the man who reported seeing a suspicious bag in a wooded area, which eventually was identified as Caylee Anthony's remains.

Kronk's attorney, as well as attorneys for the other witnesses, told the judge that the request was too broad and amounted to a "fishing expedition." The judge asked Anthony's attorneys to re-file their motion for the phone records so that the time-frame of the information they're requesting is more narrowly focused.

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http://www.wftv.com/news/19587979/detail.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_4pm&ts=T&tmi=orlc_4pm_1_03000205282009

05-19-09

Gonzalez Case To Continue

Casey Anthony's lawyers tried their best to have the defamation suit, from Zaneida Gonzales, thrown out, but it didn't happen. Circuit Judge Jose Rodriguez ruled the civil case can move forward.

Circuit Judge Jose Rodriguez had some words of caution about Casey's refusal to answer most of the written questions Zenaida wanted her to answer.

One of Casey's attorneys, Jonathan Kasen, attended the 30-minute hearing to convince the judge to throw out the defamation case.

"They never established the individual in question, his client, and Mr. Morgan's client is that individual who was allegedly disparaged or defamed," said Kasen.

"The court as you mentioned, in January 2009, sought to have a, to split the baby if you will," he said.

"No, I was not splitting any babies," replied Judge Rodriguez.

Zenaida Gonzalez' attorneys convinced the judge to add the possibility of punitive damages to the case, arguing the damage was done when investigators questioned Zenaida after Casey's story about last seeing Caylee with a woman of the same name at the Sawgrass Apartments.

"That was the defamation to her," said Zenaida's attorney Keith Mitnik.

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http://www.wftv.com/news/19500586/detail.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_8pm&ts=T&tmi=orlc_8pm_1_07000105192009

05-14-09

"That Child"

A DCF worker was deposed on Wednesday, and said Casey Anthony referred to her daughter, Caylee, as "that child".

Casey had lied to the child abuse investigator, according to his testimony. He says Casey told him she was very interested in telling her side of the story and repeated she was innocent. Casey told him Caylee's father, a middle school classmate who was killed in a crash after moving to Kentucky, had set up a trust fund in her name. She said his family now lives in Italy.

Though she said she could get overemotional about Caylee, she was the opposite, very cool and smooth. Casey told DCF that she enjoyed working with the agencies and volunteers looking for Caylee, but she did not cooperate with them or help them in the search.

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DOCUMENTS RELEASED MAY 1 2009 from WFTV:
» Administrator Interviews In Deputy Cain Investigation
» Yuri Melich Interview Jan 22 2009
» Adrian Acevedo Interview Dec 17 2008
» Alex Roberts Interview Jan 6 2009
» Rosa Heisler Interview On Jan 21 2009
» Roy Kronk Interview #1 On Jan 6 2009
» Roy Kronk Interview #2 On Jan 6 2009
» Deputy Cain Administrative Investigation Reports
» Carl Spare Interview Jan 20 2009
» Christopher Gibson Interview Jan 6 2009
» Deputy Sheriff Elizabeth Collins
» Deputy Sheriff Eduard Turso Jan 8 2009
» Transcripts Of Roy Kronk 911 Calls Aug 11, 12, 13
» Deputy Cain - Two Interviews
» Deputy Kethlin Cutcher Interview #1
» Deputy Kethlin Cutcher Interview #2
» Keith Williams Interview #1
» Keith Williams Interview #2
» FBI Reports On Examination Of Evidence
» Sgt. John Allen Interview January 22 2009

04-23-09

A Telling Message

During the very early stages of the Casey Anthony investigation, Cindy Anthony left a very telling message for Sergeant John Allen, that gives a glimpse into Cindy's mind-set, at the time of Caylee's disappearance.

"I'm very sorry, because I've been more bent over backwards than anybody else in this investigation," Cindy Anthony said. "Casey had to have help, no matter what the scenario might be, so there are people who know that information."

This is a sharp contradiction to what she has told the public over the past several months.

Cindy Anthony, still, hasn't realized that every time she speaks to the public she takes the chance of, further, hurting her daughters case. Cindy and George Anthony went on the CBS' "Early Show", Wednesday, showing their support for their daughter, in a media blitz some are calling the "Anthony's Reasonable Doubt Campaign". According to WFTV news, Oprah Winfrey canceled her scheduled interview with the Anthony's after their interview with the "Early Show".

Kathy Belich made a very good point in her newscast, Thursday, when she said that one thing we haven't heard the Anthony's say is they're still searching for Caylee's killer, or what kind of punishment the killer should receive.

Cindy Anthony revealed that she, too, had written suicide notes "back at the end of July and August."

"I couldn't bear not having Caylee around and not knowing what happened to her," Cindy Anthony said. "You get to a point when you miss someone so much, that you think life's not worth living."

 

 

The scheduled court hearing over whether Casey's reaction to Caylee's remains being found will be made public or not has been changed from May 7, to May 28, 2009.

 

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Phone Message Recording...

http://www.wftv.com/news/19255787/detail.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_12pm&ts=T&tmi=orlc_12pm_1_10500104232009

News Video...

http://www.wftv.com/video/19259736/index.html

Talk of suicide...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/04/22/earlyshow/main4962070.shtml

04-14-09

State To Seek Death Penalty, again

The State Attorney's Office is now seeking the death penalty, again, in the case against Casey Anthony.

According to WFTV news, six days before Caylee's remains were found around the corner from family's house, prosecutors had decided not to seek the death penalty against her mother Casey Anthony.

Prosecutors say in their notice of intent which was filed Monday, that since December 5 sufficient aggravating circumstances exist to justify seeking the death penalty against Casey Anthony for the premeditated murder of her daughter Caylee last June.

"Based upon additional information that has become available since the waiver of intent to seek the penalty of death filed on December 5, 2008, sufficient aggravating circumstances exist to justify the imposition of the Death Penalty," the filed letter states.

The legal aggravating circumstances that would apply in this case would be that the murder was cruel and atrocious and cold, calculated and premeditated.

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04-11-09

JurorThirteen George and Cindy Anthony Deposition Notes

I've done notes before, whether it be for a trial update or from evidence documents. I usually do a synopsis of what was said, which is what I planned this time. But, every time I'd get to the next line I had to include it, too, or we wouldn't get the full effect of who George and Cindy really are. My question is, "Who the hell are these people?!" Or at least, "Who the hell do these people think they are?!".

During my video and note taking escapade, I was able to gather the true faces of George and Cindy Anthony. They were rather confident in their depositions and a bit peeved that they were required to be there, which was a waste of their precious time, to answer these irrelevant questions they were being asked.

                                       

                                            

I think they may have already decided which type of answers they would or wouldn't give and were going to walk off the stage... uh... I mean out of the courtroom, if they didn't get their way.

Please excuse the fact that I placed a dash of some of my own commentary here and there... I just couldn't help myself. Some of this is hilarious... read on!

George Anthony Deposition

George was sworn in and promised to tell the whole truth.

Attorney Mitnik asked the preliminary questions and then established that Casey had lived with George and Cindy ever since she was born.

George said he had believed that Casey was working, full time, at Universal Studios up until Caylee disappeared.

Mitnik said he wanted to focus on a year from June of 2007 to June 2008.

George said Casey wasn't paying rent at the house but occasionally contributed to the household by buying groceries.

Mitnik tried to pinpoint how often Casey provided items for the household, and George started to go into a slow burn. George wanted to just put up a number and saying "and let's end it at that." Mitnik said that was fine as long as he was telling him  under oath that this was his best estimate, which was every other month.

To my surprise, George got snippy and said, "I'm telling you the best answer I can give you so I suggest you go on to another question."

Mitnik went on to ask him how much money Casey was contributing, once every two months, and to give him a ballpark figure. George got irritated and shaking his head he said, "I don't know. I don't see the bills or what she paid for, and, I don't think that's relevant here."

Mitnik ignored him and asked, "What kind of things did she purchase?"

At that point, 4:52 into the tape, George said, "I'm not going to answer any further with that."

Mitnik, "You won't tell me?"

George, "No."

George and Cindy's lawyer, Brad Conway, spoke up and asked George if he knew and George told Conway that he had no idea.

After each question George started sighing and shaking his head, in disgust, at the questions he was being asked.

Then Mitnik asked George how he would know she was purchasing things if he didn't know what kind of things she was purchasing.

George got belligerent and said, "When you see someone bring bags in from a local grocery store you know they purchased them. (roll eyes, sigh, acting like that was the stupidest question he ever heard) Wouldn't that say they were the one who purchase it?"

Mitnik said, "Well, now, that's helpful. In other words, about once every two months she'd bring in some groceries."

George looks at Mitnik in disbelief and says, "I just said that." (Shake head, sigh, roll eyes, chew lip).

(It took George 5:16 to answer about a minute's worth of questioning).

Mitnik asked if George knew if Casey had a checking account and George said that as far as he knew she did, but, wasn't sure how long she had it. George also stated that he had no idea if she had credit cards.

George said that he occasional gave Casey gas and money and that it could have been from once a week to once a month, but he never helped in paying for Casey's clothing.

Mitnik asked George when the first time he ever heard the name Zenaida Gonzalez and George said that he never heard Zenaida Gonzales' name until July of 2008 when Caylee went missing, although, George did hear the name "Zany" a year earlier from Casey.

George said that he heard from Casey that this woman was watching Caylee. George went on to say that if Zany wasn't babysitting, he or his wife would be watching Caylee. He added that 99% of the time he and Cindy would be watching Caylee.. the rest of the time Zany took care of Caylee.

George said he didn't do any personal inquiries into who Zany was and he didn't ask how Zany was being paid for sitting.

George is getting irritated with the attorney asking him the same questions in different ways, saying, "I already answered that question!"

"Let's just cut to the chase", George said.

Casey had told George that she met Zany through someone at Universal Studios the year before Caylee disappeared. As Mitnik pushed through questions about Zany, George became more and more irritated.

Mitnik asked, "With everything you know today do you believe that there ever was a Zany?"

"I believe in my daughter. Yes" George answered,"I still believe there's a Zany out there, I really do."

George wouldn't answer questions posed to him about any discussion he had with Cindy about the existence of Zany. His attorney said the answer was privileged as it was a marital conversation.

George said he had never seen the Zenaida Gonzalez who was in the courtroom.

* Then he started getting even more smart mouthed and combative in his answers. He gave Mr. Mitnik a bad time about the attorney's mispronunciation of the name "Zany" as Mitnik was pronouncing it with a long A (rhymes with rainy). George went on to tell him that he (Mitnik) was saying Zinnie (Rhymes with Jenny) and that he (Mitnik) needed to pronounce-E-ATE (yep, that's how George said it) things a little bit better so "people can understand you."

Mitnik said, "Alright, I don't want to confuse you so give it to me sir..." And, George interrupted with, "You don't have to confuse me, sir, I'm on the ball."

Mitnik, calmly, said, "I can tell."

(Of course now I'm laughing my "Zinnie" off because George is acting like a pompous a** know-it-all, as he's mispronouncing what Mitnik was mispronouncing, plus adding a couple of other whoppers in there).

Mitnik said, "Give me the (and I'm not kidding you) pronounce-A-tion so I can get it right." (Hey... I think Mitnik said that on purpose! Ya think?)

And George yelled, "How 'bout Z-A-N-Y! And, if you can't pronounce an A there's something wrong with you, sir."

Mitnik said, "Tell me the way you say it, sir." and George said Zany (rhyming with nanny) Z-A-N-Y, yes sir."

George paused for a moment and said, "And, the way you're pronounce-E-Ating it, you're saying Zinnie." (George gives a big angry sigh and shakes his head in disgust.)
 
"Am I upset sir? Your darn right I'm upset being here, because I think this is uncalled for."

(Okay. The video is now at 16:12 and there's probably only about 3 minutes of testimony, that should have gone on, if there was JUST a bit more co-operation from the witness.)

Mitnik started his questioning, again, asking George if he'd ever met or seen Zany the babysitter. George got upset and said, You just asked me that."

Mitnik passed it off and asked George if he ever asked Casey if he could meet Zany. George's answer was, "Did not."

When asked if there were any instances where Casey took any money from others, George refused to answer. Conway said that they weren't going to answer that question because it could take away from Casey having a fair trial.

Mitnik told them that the relevance was that if she (Casey) was having to take money from family members then how in the world does she have money to pay a babysitter once a week or every other week. And it is highly relevant in the case. Mitnik wants him to answer the questions that are relevant to the case or have Conway give a legal objection. If they don't comply with that, he can take it to a judge with a motion to compel and end up back in the courtroom another time to answer the questions.

(I'm not sure George is paying attention to Mitnik, or cares what he says.)

Mitnik asks again, "Was your daughter taking money that did not belong to her from others, to your knowledge to in the year leading up to this."

George paused for a moment and then said, "I'm not answering that."

Mitnik, "You refuse to answer it?"

George, "Take it anyway you want to take it."

George went o to say that it was no concern "..to this lady sitting down here (Zenaida), No concern."

Mitnik continued, "Did your daughter appear to be short on funds in the year leading up to the disappearance?"

George, visibly irritated, said, "I have no knowledge of that. No."

Mitnik asked if George had discussed Casey's finances with her that year and George said he never discussed it with her.

When asked if he discussed with Casey why she took money that didn't belong to her, George said that he had no knowledge of her taking any money from any family member. This included credit cards.

(Hmmmmm?)

Mitnik asked if there was any friction or arguments that occurred within 48 hours, before Caylee's disappearance,in your house and George said, "No."

Mitnik asked, "What was going on the last time you saw Caylee?" and Conway objected.

When asked again George said he would not answer that. Then he said he wanted to just cut to the chase and described the Zany that Casey had spoken about had long dark hair, nice teeth... etc..

"Let's just cut the chase and get down to it."

As Mitnik begins to ask another question George turns to his lawyer, Brad Conway and said, "I'm not going to be able to take this much longer, Brad."

George never heard of the Sawgrass apartments until the investigation started for his missing granddaughter.

George never heard of the Sawgrass apartments before and Casey never mentioned it to him at anytime.

When asked if Dominic Casey worked for him... George said yes he worked for the Anthony family.

When asked, "Did you ever send anyone out to look in the woods back in November (2008)."

George, "No, I didn't"

Did Cindy ever say anything to you about her sending anyone to search the woods? "My wife and I discuss my daughter and granddaughter on a daily basis and she did not say that to me?

George shook his head in disgust and said, "Let me ask you something. How can you get involved in a criminal case when this is a civil case?"

"Is this 15 minutes of fame so important to you?"

"I don't have to explain anything to you but I will," Attorney Mitnik said, "just out of courtesy."

Then George accused Mitnik of giving him the finger each time he pushed his glasses up to the bridge of his nose. Mitnik denied it and said that in the future he would use his "pinky" finger so there was no question.

George insisted that the whole thing (case about Zenaida) could be finished up in 5 minutes and not be wasting his time, his wife's time and his lawyer's time.

Uh... George, then stop asking about how to pronounce-E-Ate things and answer the questions so you can get out of there...and not come back!)

When asked if Dominic Casey gave him any leads as to where to go look, George said, "No."

George told Mitnik that he felt the only way Dominic Casey got his tip was through something on Television.

"During the 31 days that Caylee was missing did you ever try to locate Zany?" Mitnik asked.

George answered, "Did not."

George continues a smug look, rolling his eyes, and defensive and combative attitude after each question.

Did you try to find Zany after your daughter re-appeared without "Casey" (slip of the tongue) after the 31 days that you didn't see them? Did you make any efforts to locate Zany?

George got really upset with him at this point and said "Think about what you just asked me."

The attorney rephrased the question using the term daughter and granddaughter and George answered, "Did not."

Why, when you spent everyday, 24 hours a day looking for Caylee, didn't you try to find this "Zany" who supposedly had her?

George said he put forth every effort for the investigators to do their jobs.

Mitnik, "Your daughter said Zany was the one who had her "right?"

George, "In the beginning, yes"

During the testimony George said he never looked in the phone-book for a Zenaida Gonzales but possibly may have looked on the internet.  George said there were about 140 Zenaida Gonzales' that were in the Central area of Florida. When asked if this was the greater Orlando area and George, sounding disgusted, said, "yeah, in the greater Orlando area."

He wasn't sure which sites he was on. Mitnik asked if his home computer would have that and George snickered and said the sheriff's department had that.  He said that the sheriff's department had that and all our equipment so if they need to ask, ask them. He said that the computer he didn't have was the one he searched for Zenaida Gonzales on.

Then the attorney used the term "when the remains were found" and George interrupted saying, "you know, if you say the word remains one more time I'm walking out this door."

"How dare you say that about my granddaughter!" Mitnik rephrased using the term "when your granddaughter was found."

So as far as you know your daughter said Caylee was with Zany? If you believed that why wouldn't you....", and Mitnik was interrupted by Conway saying he already answered the question. Mitnik said he refused to answer the question.

George reiterated that he didn't look for Zany because he relied on law enforcement, the FBI and private investigators to do their job."

When asked if he was loud and demanding to the investigators about finding Zany because she had Caylee, he said "no."

Attorney Mitnik asked if George had a specific recollection of Casey saying Caylee was spending the night at Zany's and after being evasive with his answers, once again, he finally said, "Yes."

George claimed that he only learned about the Sawgrass apartments when it was mentioned on July 15, the night they found out Caylee was missing, but that's all he heard.

"So it's your testimony that you never heard your daughter talk about dropping Caylee off at the Sawgrass apartments and he said he only heard about it when the Sheriff's dept talked about it and when he saw it on TV?

Smug and looking down his nose at Mitnik, George said he never went to Blanchard park in regards to this investigation. "Nope."

"Did you have any conversations with Casey during the 31 days that Caylee was missing? George said that maybe a text message, a conversation in passing, something like that, "Mitnik asked.

When the attorney tried to pin point the number of times that might have happened George got upset again and said he refused to answer the question because he didn't know.

Mitnik asked him if it was more than once and George finally conceded to that answer. When asked if it were more than 10 times, George, basically, blew up at the attorney saying he already answered "more than once" and 10 times was more than once.

George refused to go any further with that question.

Attorney Mitnik warned George that if he didn't answer the questions he would probably be back in a month to answer them, because what he (George) thought was relevant and what they (Zenaida's lawyers) think is relevant might be two different things.

Mitnik tried to explain that when Casey was asked whether the picture of Zenaida was presented to her, Casey refused to answer. Plus, Casey had a law suit pending against Zenaida, so that's why the questions needed to be answered. He went on to say that they didn't want to have to come back here, and George interrupted saying, "I'm not coming back, again."

Mitnik asked George about the day that Casey came to the house and they had the confrontation over the gas cans, blocking him from the trunk. George refused to answer questions concerning that because it will affect the criminal investigation and this was a civil case.

When asked if he thought his daughter had been working at Universal he stated that he already answered that he did. Then the attorney asked if he remembered what he said, under oath, to investigators last August when he said," I felt for two years my daughter hasn't been working. I felt that."

George tried to give a lot of double talk when pressed as to why he said one thing to investigators and then the opposite today.

George got adamant and said he was not going to answer that question.

When asked about the time that the Anthony's found the ladder by the pool and they said that possibly Casey may have been swimming with Caylee and something happened, George refused to answer.

Things got heated so they took a small break. When they came back Mitnik asked George what he knew about Casey changing her story from leaving her with Zany at the Sawgrass apartments and then being kidnapped at Blanchard Park.

George said, "I have no knowledge about that."

George said he had never heard of that change in her story and said he was hearing it for the first time today.

When asked if he had a list as to who could have done this George said, "I'm not going to tell you."

When asked if Casey was on that list, George said he wasn't going to discuss any more about his daughter with him.

When asked if any Zenaida Gonzales was on that list, George said, "No."

When asked whether that was because he now has concluded that the Zenaida story wasn't true from the beginning, attorney Brad Conway told him he didn't have to answer that.

Although George admits to talking to Lee, every single day, he has no knowledge as to where Lee searched and if he did tell him he doesn't remember.

Next the attorney asked if he got a story from Casey that she was on her way to Tampa and Zenaida was involved in a car crash, and he said, "Yes, I did."

When asked whether George had heard from his granddaughter in those 31 days George was visibly hurt and angered by his question and said that the last time he talked to his granddaughter was June 16th, 2008, and if he asked about that again he was leaving.

Then he said he was only going to give Zenaida's attorneys five more minutes and then he was walking out of there.

George Anthony went on about how they and others have torn apart his life.

(Uh... Casey's the one who did that George!)

An attorney told George that they were going to suspend the deposition until a judge could hear them because he needs some parameters from the court as he doesn't believe George understands the limits of what their job is.

Then George said he just wanted to get this over-with but that he wasn't going to answer any questions concerning the criminal case.

Then Anthony was told that if he decides to walk out they would file for contempt of court and ask for attorney's fees.

Then he admonished George Anthony's attorney for not explaining what the deposition was all about and why certain questions were important to answer. He was going to prove that if it wasn't his client it had to be someone else and the Anthony's saying it wasn't her wasn't enough.

Mitnik continued saying that he knew this was hard for George, during this time of grief, but, he was not going to stand there and be berated and be told what he can and cannot ask.

They decided to take about a 15 minute break and then continued with the questioning. George was much more cooperative when he returned.

Mitnik read part of a transcript where George said that at least 90% of the time Cindy watched Caylee and that he seldom watched her by himself. In the transcript George said that Cindy was more of a "mom" figure than Casey and that he thought that happened from the day she was born. George also said, in the transcript, that Cindy was the first one to hold Caylee when she was born and that it was something that Casey had thrown in Cindy's face at times.

Mitnik asked about the smell in the car trunk at Johnson's towing. George hesitated and then said "yes".

The Mitnik went on to ask of any book deals that George might have knowledge of and he said, "Not that I'm aware of."

George was then asked about Dominic Casey being hired as a private investigator and who paid for that. George said they hand made an agreement but no money had exchanged hands. When question about the deal they made, Conway spoke up and said it was privileged information.

George said he never received a call from Dominic Casey saying "I received a tip. I know where the body is. And George answered, "No."

George went on to say that he never knew about the search in the woods until the day they got back from California and that he never had a conversation with Dominic Casey about the tip.

George was asked about the pavers that surrounded his pool, and if any pavers were stored in the garage, and he said no.

Zenaida's lawyers explained that they were asking the questions about the pavers and whether a psychic somehow saw the pavers in a vision because they needed to find out if some 3rd party was trying to stage an alibi or cover-up who might be a person who was obstructing justice.

Then George was asked if he ever overheard Jose Baez tell Mr. Casey that if he found a body don't call 911. George, again, said no.

The attorney then asked George if he believed Dominic Casey was involved in any type of cover-up concerning Caylee, and he said no.

"So then it's either a psychic or a 3rd party who could be involved in a cover-up?" the attorney asked.

George said it could be, he didn't know.

They took a quick break and then an attorney for Gonzales asked another question about Casey harboring ill feelings when Caylee was handed to Cindy at the time of birth. In George's statements to investigators last August, he said that it wasn't like they (George and Cindy) were trying to take Caylee away from Casey.

The attorney then asked if there were any issues regarding that or if there was any physical altercation between Cindy and Casey and he, again, said no.

IMO: George has gotten a lot of sympathy from me in the past, but he garnished none from me during this deposition.

Do I feel bad for them and what they're going through? Absolutely!! But, there are thousand of people who go through this type of horrific pain, every day. But, this is the first time I've seen two supposedly mature, intelligent, people act like spoiled little immature brats, who have absolutely no control of themselves, act so totally foolish in a court of law and before a nation of viewers.

This was NOT the Cindy and George show, today, as they would like to think. And, if it was, they were lousy performers!

NLH

The name "Zany" was brought to you by George. And I'm not about to tick that man off...lol

(I always thought it had a couple of N's in it... who knew..lol)

 

Cindy Anthony Deposition

Zenaida Gonzales' attorney explained that he was going to talk about a specific time period before and leading up to Caylee's disappearance. He said he was going to ask particularly about the household and the set up of the household and who lived there between March and April of last year.

Before he could get the first question out, Cindy interrupted asking what relevance it had to the case.

Cindy's lawyer advised her to answer the questions, and the attorney was able to ask his first question, "Where do you live." She gave the address.

Cindy testified that to her knowledge Casey worked at Universal Studios, during that time, and the Hard-rock Cafe.

She admitted that no-one from either place of work ever called her home, that she was aware of, so the only information concerning Casey's jobs was from Casey.

Still mumbling to her attorney that the questioning was till not relevant, she continued answering questions posed about Casey's employment.

Cindy thought that Casey had gotten her job in 2004 and was still working at Universal in 2008, but is now aware that she had no real source of income that year.

As Zenaida's lawyer continued to figure out who was working and who wasn't, in the household, Cindy said that George had a couple of jobs during that time but she didn't know who with.

Cindy said that if George wasn't working George was the one who took care of Caylee when Casey wasn't home. She also stated that Casey watched Caylee more than any of them did.

They discussed names of various people who had babysat Caylee in the past. She mentioned Lauren Gibbs, who babysat Caylee for a few months after she was born, when Casey went back to work. Then she mentioned Jessie Grund, his father Richard and mother Debra Grund, as babysitters. Cristina Chester, Holly Gagne (sp).

These were a friends of the family, that Cindy knew and met, who babysat for Casey for free. to the best of her knowledge and that she herself had never paid money for babysitting to these people as it wasn't her responsibility to do so.

As the attorney was trying to point out that Cindy must have had communication with these people in case of an emergency, Cindy interrupted and said she didn't have anyone's phone number except for Lauren's back in January of 2006.

He pointed out that she knew the Grunds first names and last names and had met these people and could recognize them is they came in the room and she said yes.

None of these people or any other people that may have babysat Caylee were ever referred to as a "Nanny".

According to Cindy, it was Jessie Grund who called the babysitter "Zany the nanny".

She said she'd never seen a picture of Zany except the one she has in her head.

She said she could have contacted Zany back then because she had phone numbers and addresses that she no longer possesses. She said she gave all of that information to law enforcement. She said she never called the numbers or visited the addresses because there was never a reason to do so.

The lawyers played a video tape of one of the interviews that Cindy gave during the time that Caylee was missing, where she said that Zany was a person who was in conversations prior to Caylee's birth. Cindy told him that was a mis-statement during a very stressful time.

She went on to say that Jessie Grund had mentioned Zany, too, but the only other person who talked about Zany was Caylee when she talked about Zany's dog.

Cindy's understanding was that Jeffrey Hopkins, ex-boyfriend of Zany's, was paying Zany as she was also babysitting his little boy Zachery.

Casey and Caylee spent the night at Zany's approximately twice a month, according to Cindy.

Cindy said that Casey had a hair straightener and when she asked where she got it Casey said Zany gave it to her. About a year before that Casey had some movie CD's that she said Zany didn't want anymore. Cindy turned all of this over to LE.

Cindy argued with the attorney that She never thought Caylee was missing until July 15th, 2008, however, he asked her about her MySpace account where she had posted "My Caylee is Missing" on July 3rd. When questioned about it she said it didn't really mean that her Caylee was missing.

The attorney asked Cindy how she could reconcile the fact that she didn't have a job, so she wasn't working late to where she would stay over at Zany's. She responded that she hasn't reconciled with it or come to terms with it, yet.

The attorney said that they were two different things because if she doesn't have a job then she's not working late. Cindy's answer was that she didn't know and that she was not going to speculate where she really was.

Then he asked if it was fair to say, then, that if she didn't know where Casey was at, it was very possible that she wasn't with Zany. Cindy told him she couldn't speculate and "she very well could have been at Zany's."

At this point the attorney, Cindy and Conway get into a heated discussion about what was proper questioning. Cindy interrupted, again, and said she shouldn't have been asked any questions that we're relevant to Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales.

The attorney finally got Cindy to admit that Casey had been untruthful to her about where she was and that wouldn't be the only time Casey was untruthful. Cindy blew it off saying, "Kids are untruthful all the time."

"Her being untruthful about this, though, is particularly important because it has to do with your granddaughter," Attorney Dill said, and accused Casey of being untruthful about the location of her granddaughter and Cindy said that he was only speculating that because as far as she knew Casey could have been at Zenaida's.

Another video was played where Cindy had said that Zenaida had become Caylee's main babysitter from about around the time of Caylee's 1st birthday, "so this person wasn't made up a month or so ago". She also stated in the video that she thinks Zany was a real person in the beginning but now felt that Zany was anyone who was watching Caylee.

Another tape was shown to Cindy where she was talking to Casey during a jail visit. Cindy asked if anyone had asked her to do a composite drawing of Zenaida. Casey answered, "Not once", then Casey went on to say that LE had never shown her a picture of Zenaida, the girl down in Kissimmee.

Dill went on to ask Cindy if John Allen had a reason to lie about showing Casey the picture of Zenaida and Casey saying it wasn't her. Cindy first said no she couldn't think of a reason Allen would lie but resisted when Dill said that Casey was being inaccurate on the phone that day when she said she wasn't shown the picture. At this point Cindy went on to defend Casey again saying she didn't know that, that Casey could have been telling the truth.

Cindy said, "John Allen could be lying, I have no idea." She went on to say that she didn't believe half of the discovery because of typographical errors.

Cindy continued to listen to the question being asked, but, going out of the realm of the answers often going on and on in an area that wasn't asked.

Because Dill asked her to just answer the question he's asking, Cindy became very argumentative.

Dill continued his questioning by asking Cindy about the time she asked Casey, during the jail visit, what she would like her to say to Zanny.

Dill was trying to pin Cindy down about a statement she broadcast to the media in Casey's behalf (concerning Casey not being shown the picture of Zenaida or picking it out of a photo line-up.)  He stated that Cindy had gone and now published to anybody who wanted to watch and she agreed.

Dill said, "So the statements that the police officers have made, that your daughter has denied that this Zenaida Gonzales (meaning their client) is the actual Zenaida Gonzales, that now has been undone by the statement you made because your daughter has told you, and you've broadcast it to the world that she never was shown a photograph."

Cindy said it wasn't "undone" because Casey's handwritten statement does not describe her (the client)."Her birthday's not Sept. 1st, she's not 25 years old, she's not 5'7", she's not 140 lbs, she doesn't have black hair, she doesn't have perfect teeth, she's not a 10," Cindy said, "I'm sorry mam, You're cute but you're not a 10."

Cindy, still going beyond the question that's asked, complained that they were doing the same things that the Sheriffs did to her daughter... they never let her speak. (OMG!)

Again, Dill tries to get her to focus on the question about the statement she made on the video on July 28th, and whether she had questions or not about whether those statements were truthful or not.

"Is that fair to say?" Dill asks.

Cindy still didn't understand the question so Dill tried again by rephrasing it. "You had a question in your mind (at the time) whether your daughter was telling the truth. Is that right?

"No, I didn't have a question," Cindy answered.

Dill asked if she, then, believed that Casey hadn't seen the photo line-up if she believed that to be the truth. Cindy said she didn't have a question about whether Casey was telling her the truth.

"So, when she said to you, and you told me before you didn't know what the truth was, when she said to you 'they didn't show me a photo', you believe that to be true and the police to be inaccurate, is that what you're saying?", Dill asked.

Cindy, still contradicting herself, again, said, "No. What I'm saying is the sheriffs office told me certain things. At the time that they told me I believed them. As time goes on I'm not sure what I believe. Same thing with Casey."

Cindy (definition) double talker

Although, earlier Cindy said that she didn't have a question about whether Casey was telling her the truth, or not, when asked again, she stated that she wasn't sure if Casey was shown a picture or not and she wasn't sure if Casey was being truthful or not.

"She had no reason to lie about the picture at that point about her (pointing her finger at Zenaida)." Cindy said.

Then Cindy asked Dill, "Why would she lie about that?"

Dill replied, "Is it fair to say your daughter has lied to you about many things?"

Side-stepping yet another question, Cindy said," It's fair to say the sheriffs department lied to me about many things."

Dill said he'd get to the sheriff's department in a minute but that he was talking about Casey. He asked her again if it was fair to say that Casey had lied to her about many things and, FINALLY, Cindy Anthony said, "Correct."

"At this point in time..... you were saying you were not sure if your daughter was telling the truth or not about the picture.... or do you know?" Dill asked.

Now, Cindy went back to the story that she thinks Casey might not have been shown the picture of this particular Zenaida, but this is what she believes that now.

Dill asks a familiar question, "Do you believe the sheriff's department was lying to you and not only lying to you but lying in their official documents about whether they showed your daughter a photograph of my client, Zenaida Gonzales?"

Cindy said, "Well, the reason I believe there's a possibility that they were telling me not the truth about it is because they also told me in the same breath that there was only 2 Zenaida's that they were able to pull up, and I was able to pull up, on the same day, eleven myself. So, that's when the doubt came to my mind before I went to see my daughter there (pointing at the jailhouse video). So, Yes.. the doubt is there."

Dill replies, "But, as we sit here today, we're not talking about if there's a doubt or not, do you believe the police department, the sheriff's office, in charge of finding your granddaughter... do you believe that they mislead the public and mislead you and mislead everybody else about showing Casey a photograph of my client?"

Cindy, again, said, "I don't know. There's a possibility that they could have."

Cindy went on to say that it was John Allen who picked his client out the two Zenaida's they found, not Casey and that Casey never told Alan to go to Kissimmee. Casey never said the person lived in Kissimmee, according to Cindy.

Dill said, "Are you now saying under oath, that the police are lying in their discovery?"

"No, I'm not say that they we're lying." Cindy said.

Double Talk: Definition * deliberately unintelligible gibberish   wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

Dill asked where Cindy pulled up the multiple Zenaida Gonzalez' information and on what computer.

Cindy, evidently confused by the simple question or stalling for time to answer it, said,"What do you mean? Are you asking me what computer or what site I pulled it up on?"

Dill said, "Both." and Cindy said with a smirk on her face. "No you didn't. Now, you're asking both.

She continued to dance around the question, again, by saying, "But that's what I was trying to clarify. Because your questions aren't specific."

Dill said he would be more specific. He told her that "she said she pulled up" and when he says "pulled up" he means "ran a search on the internet.(She said "correct.") "Was that done on a computer," he asked.

"Yes, "Cindy said.

He asked what computer it was and she said it was her Hewlett Packard desktop computer.

He asked her if it was the one that's been seized and she said it had been seized on July 17th and she got it back on July 22.

Dill said, "Okay, so the searches you've been talking about, when you got it back, are you saying they wouldn't be there because you ran the search on Judy 27th?"

Cindy said she actually ran the search on August the 16th when she ran the searches, because she had some printouts with the date on them, but she could have ran searches before that time. Then she said that she started looking up Zenaida Gonzales where it was on MySpace or searches on July 16th.

Cindy said that there were 11 Zenaida Gonzales' just in Orange County.

Dill asked if the searches Cindy ran, then, on July 16th, would have shown up on the history of the desktop. Cindy said it was possible and that she didn't remember where she what the sites were. Dill said they could get the information from the computer.

Then Cindy said the search was probably done on MySpace. Dill told her that MySpace wasn't a search engine. "You're searching MySpace," Dill said.

Cindy said she was searching MySpace and that it WAS a search engine.

Then (to my dismay) Dill again asked if she thinks, today, that the police were being untruthful about showing the photo? Conway stated that the question had been asked many times as Cindy interrupted saying, "I'm not sure."

Then he asked if Cindy gave any of the search material to Dominic Casey and she said, "No." When asked "Why not?", she said it was because he wasn't working for her at that time.

Dill said, "Was there ever a time that he was working for you?"

Cindy said,"Not early on."

Dill asked the question again and she said, "Yes, he still is."

When asked if she gave Zenaida's addresses to Dominic Casey, she said "No" because she gave them to Jose Baez.

Dill changed the questioning to focusing on the June time-frame. He asked if she had Caylee most of the week that Cindy had taken off for vacation, in June, and she said he was correct.

Then he questioned her about Amy saying that her and George were moving out and that Amy would be rooming there with Casey. Cindy told him that she didn't know what Casey told Amy Huizenga and that her and George never had plans to move out. Cindy said the only time she talked to Amy was July 15th.

Dill asked if Casey had ever said what her income source was during the time near Cindy's birthday, which was June 5th. Cindy said they didn't talk about it during that time-frame.

Then Dill asked if there was ever a time she found out that Casey and Caylee were staying over at Rick Morales' house around June 7th, and she said she had learned that after the fact.

Dill said that it was inconsistent with what Casey was telling her she was doing with Caylee. "Is that right?"

Cindy replied that on June 7th she wasn't home so she had no idea. (I don't think you could get a straight answer out of this woman if she were strapped flat on a level)

Then she said that Casey never did tell her that she stayed over at Ricardo's house.

They moved on to the subject of Casey stealing from her grandmother and Cindy said it was a couple of times and that one check was for either $27 or $47 and one for over $200.

The attorney wanted to know if Cindy ever asked Casey, who at the time she thought had a job, would steal from her grandmother. She said she had talked to Casey. When question as to what the conversation was, Cindy said, "That's irrelevant to the case."

When pushed further about the question, and at her attorney's urging that she answer the question, Cindy said she couldn't remember but she had Casey talk to her mom and they worked it out.

When asked if Casey had ever stolen from any other family member, Cindy said she had only stolen from her grandmother.

Then he asked if Casey had ever stolen from her (Cindy) or used credit cards without permission and, again, she said it wasn't relevant to the case. At that point she said she wasn't going to answer the question.

They took a short break and when the started up the questioning again, Dill asked Cindy if Casey had ever taken her credit cards with out permission. This started another round of arguments and Cindy let them know that she had no intention of answering the question.

Finally, Dill asked if Cindy had ever had a confrontation with Casey over any money she stole from her and she said, "Yes." She admitted that it was between $200-300.

Somewhere in the middle of all this Cindy let Dill know that he had never asked her about money stolen from credit cards. (*sigh)

Cindy went on to say that there was no argument between her and Casey and when Dill asked her if this was something she gave her permission to do and she said, again that she wasn't going to answer the question.

(Confused with her answers? So am I.)

When asked again if she allowed her daughter to take money from her account she said, "No."

She went on to say that after they talked about it everything was fine and there was no confrontation.

Cindy continued to *double talk the questions so Attorney Dill went on to a different one. He asked if Casey had ever mentioned moving out during this time period and she said no.

She said that she didn't know what friends Casey had at the Sawgrass apartments but since has found out that Annie, Ricardo, and JP lived there.

Cindy said there wasn't any discussion or disagreement the night of June 15th. She took Caylee dinner and then played in the pool until Casey came in. Dill asked if there were statements and police reports that there was a loud arguments that night it would be incorrect and she said "yes" and that there was no altercation between her and Casey.

When asked if she knew why Casey left with Caylee the next day she said she had no idea. Then, she said she knew why Casey didn't come back but not why Caylee didn't come back.

At the time that Casey first took off with Caylee, on June 16, Cindy thought Casey was doing just what she said she was doing. This was the first time Casey had an extended stay away from home, and Cindy said it was long overdue.

A few more questions were asked about Casey taking off with Zany and Caylee for a vacation and then they changed the subject to The Sawgrass apartments.

He asked if she heard the first version of the events where she dropped off Caylee to the Sawgrass apartments and Cindy said yes and also admitted that the information that Casey was with Zany and Caylee was not accurate.

When she was asked why Casey would lie to her like that Cindy said, "I don't know." Then she said that at that she found out later that Casey was protecting Caylee and her family and to this day she still believes that that's what Casey is doing.

Cindy continued to be evasive with her answers as to why George chased Casey in the car and the argument over the gas cans.

Cindy often said that she didn't read a lot of statements and documents as they were upsetting to her but there were a few times that she would quote a certain document, it's page number, what line it was on and exactly what it said.

When asked about the gas can incident, a second time,  she said she didn't know anything because she wasn't there and she hadn't read the statement.

When asked why Casey lied to her about her whereabouts, Cindy said it was probably because if she came home without Caylee it would be a red flag that something was wrong.

Dill showed a video tape of Cindy during her interview with LE which stated pretty much the same thing she had just said and it really upset her. She said he didn't need to make her live through that again. Thank you very much.

"That was a painful time in my life, and what you're trying to do is add insult to injury. You know I don't need to see it again when I found out I've been videotaped That was a cruel thing in my life that they did me, okay," Cindy said. She continued by saying it was cruel of him (Dill) to make her sit and watch it, again.

Dill passed over her concerns and asked if she knew at the time of that tape that Casey had said that Zenaida was threatening the family. Brad Conway objected saying Cindy hadn't said that. Dill said it didn't matter and asked the question again if she knew at that time that Casey already said that she was protecting the family. This time Cindy answered yes and said she lied both times to protect the family.

Dill brought up that although Cindy has said she hadn't gone looking for Casey until July 15th, that she actually had gone, on July 3rd, to try and pick up Caylee at Universal Studios. Casey had told Cindy that Caylee was there. After she arrived there she found out Casey wasn't there, so she went home.

When asked if she had some concern she said it did, but she didn't call the police because she still believed her daughter and she didn't believe anything was wrong with Caylee.

She also said she found out later that Casey was lying when she said she went to Jacksonville on July 4th But it would have been a red flag to Cindy and others that something was wrong if she (Casey) told the truth.

Under her breath she whispered to her lawyer, "...'cause Casey didn't want me to worry."

Dill moved on to December when the police executed a search warrant on the house and came to collect certain materials.

Attorney Dill asked if Cindy ever told one of the investigators, that executed the search warrant, that you had sent someone to look in the woods back in November and Cindy said, "No, I did not."

When Dill asked how paid Dominic Casey for his work, she said that her and Dominic had a contract and that both herself and Casey had a copy of it. She said that George was on the contract, too. She said that the contract was probably written in October but the time before that it was just a verbal contract. The others who signed the contract was the people from Kid Finders.(This is different than George Anthony's testimony where he said there was no written contract.)

She was asked if Dominic was ever given any information about Zany or Zenaida Gonzales and she said, "Yes.... him and I talked about Zenaida Gonzales all the time.

Cindy was questioned about the night of the 15th when she found Casey and asked where Caylee was. She said that Casey said she was at Zany's apartment. Casey refused to take Cindy there so Cindy called the police.

She told Dill that the reason she told the police that Casey need to be arrested for Grand Theft was because the car was still in Cindy and George's name and she was trying to scare Casey into taking her to see Caylee.

After they got home Cindy had gone outside for awhile to watch for the police to come. When she came back in the house, she overheard Casey tell Lee that Zany had taken her and she hadn't seen Caylee for 31 days.

Dill and Cindy argued over which questions were asked when and what answers she was going to give and not give until she finally just said, "I'm done" and took off her microphone. She complained that the attorney was asking her questions but not letting her answer them. Dill had already told her she was giving answers to questions he hadn't asked.

Morgan said if she didn't answer the questions he would charge her with contempt, ask for sanctions, and ask for attorney's fees.

She said she'd answer the final question, but she was told there would be more questions than that and she need to "mic up". She told them she didn't need to mic up and that she had never agreed to mic up.

Then she let the attorney's know that if someone touched her she was going to file harassment charges. At that time they decided that it was time to take a break.

An attorney, I think Morgan, asked,  a calmed down, Cindy questions after the break about the first time Cindy found out that Dominic Casey and James Hoover went into the woods on a tip that Mr. Casey received. She said it might have been December 13th, but, she wasn't sure of the date.

When asked if Dominic Casey told her who gave him the tip she said "yes" it was the psychic. She said she learned about the tipster when she was in Brad Conway's office. Until then she had never heard about any tip or of them going to the woods.

She said she didn't realize Mr. Casey had been out there (the woods) 3 times until she heard it on the news.

She said she couldn't exactly remember what James Hoover said to her that day because it was such an emotional time. The had just learned that the remains in the woods might be Caylee's.

The attorney went on to ask her about the psychic and her visions. The psychic had mentioned that there were pavers, which Cindy said she remembered. Then he asked Cindy who handled the pavers at her home. She said that the pavers in the woods did not match the ones that were at her home.

Cindy said she never spoke to the Psychic, it was Dominic who was having the conversations with her.
Cindy agreed that Mr. Casey soley went to the woods based on the psychic. Morgan said that if the psychic didn't ask give the tip then someone else did, and she said that she thought LE had already determined that it was the psychic.

Again, the attorney asks her if it wasn't the psychic then it had to be someone with first hand knowledge and Cindy diverted answering his question by saying she thought it was the psychic. Morgan tried to give her a hypothetical question and Cindy said she didn't do hypotheticals.

Morgan, basically, ignored that answer and asked, again, "If it wasn't the phychic...." and Cindy interrupted in the middle of the question and said," Well he didn't find Caylee that day so obviously... ya know." And Morgan said,"He never found Caylee".

After a couple of more minutes talking about the psychic, Dominic and visions, the attorney turned back to his original question which was, " If it was not the phychic..." and Cindy interrupts again and says there is no question in her mind that it's not the psychic and she continues with the same answer she's given before. (Okay, I have to admit I'm laughing at this point).

Morgan told her that Dominic had been speaking to alot of people and Cindy went on telling him that she wasn't aware of that and what Mr. Casey's phone records said except that he'd talk to his daughter.

He asked if she was aware that Mr. Hoover said he ..."didn't believe it was the phychic...." (We interrupt this moment with Cindy giving another answer that was not asked).

"Mr. Hoover can believe what he wants you can check Lee's phone records and Dominic's. They didn't even speak that day. Mr. Hoover is like.... Mr. Hoover. Mr. Hoover wants to make money off of this like a lot of people.

(No... you don't need to read back. Mr. Morgan had said nothing about Lee at this point... still laughing).

Barely taking a breath, Cindy continued saying, "I don't believe anything Mr. Hoover says. Mr. Hoover was video taping us when we were being fingerprinted, and we had no idea, in Brad's office and John Allen found out about it because it was on Mr. Hoover's camera and Sgt. Allen confiscated his camera so I don't believe a ding dong thing that Mr. Hoover states."

(Okay, now I'm starting to tear up and choke with the laughter... maker her stop!!!)

The attorney said that at one time Casey had said that, "I feel like she's close, I feel like Caylee is close to home. Do you remember that?"

"I remember what she said," Cindy responded.

Morgan said, "It turns out she's (Casey) right, isn't she."

And Cindy said, " Yes, and someone's probably heard that and put Caylee's body there after the fact."

 He asked what she meant and she said,"...she wasn't there when Dominic was there in November."

She said Casey had explained to her that she felt that Zany was still in the area because Any told her she would bring her back within 50 days, which was Caylee's birthday. "So don't take things out of context that just because it's said that it means anything,"

Morgan chuckled and said, "Well, that's part of the problem her..." and Cindy jumped into the middle of his sentence, again and took over by saying, "No, part of the problem is... number one, again, this person, this case, and why I'm here today and why this law suit is here and why I'm here is to state that this person had nothing to do with it and you said on TV that if I said and Casey said that she (Zenaida) said she had nothing to do with it, that's all you wanted. You said that on November 17th with your channel 9 interview that you had here."

Morgan took a risk by jumping in and saying, "I do want to commend you. You know your dates and page numbers better th...." and while his statement was being talked over by Cindy, who hasn't let anyone finish a sentence most of the day, she said, "Yeah, I do," she shouted,"because I did my homework before I came here today sir. I got prepared for this."

Morgan said she was the most prepared witness he ever had ans she said, "Well, you know what this is important to me because this effects my granddaughter. This effects me, okay."

Morgan then asked what she did to prepare for the deposition today and she said what she did was she watched his (Morgan's) interview and she pulled three things. She pulled the Sawgrass apartment, where someone signed "C. Zenaida Gonzale". when asked where she got that from she said it was from the discovery. page 45. Then she gave him a look that could kill and said, "Do you want a copy of it?"

Then he asked when she filled out the form at Sawgrass and she said, "June 17th".

"Isn't that right after Casey (and he raised his voice because Cindy started to talk over him again) got in a fight with her family and left the home?!"

Cindy hollered back saying, "She didn't have a fight with me! Go there Go there Mr. Morgan! She didn't fight with me, sir."

Conway asked her something unintelligible, ans she said, "No, no let it go. Let him look like an ass on thing." (She really has no clue...Does she.)

Morgan asked, "You were aware that this (his client) Zenaida gonzales was at the Sawgrass apartments, are you not?"

Cindy said, "Whether or not she was or not, what I'm aware of is that her signature? Did she sign it see." All the time Mr. Morgan was saying "hold on... hold on", and Cindy shouted Whoa, answer the question!!!" and put her hand up towards him.

(As a trial watcher I'm in disbelief at what I'm seeing and hearing at this point...gah! PLEASE... Somebody giver her a shovel so she can finish burying herself! They are going to eat her up when she gets to the criminal trial, if she thinks she'll get away with this kind of behavior!)

Cindy continued on shouting at Mr. Morgan saying, "You're asking me a question and I want to verify did she sign that Sawgrass thing "C. Zenaida Gonzale? She just shook her head yes."
 
Mr. Morgan said,"let me ask you a question." and Cindy said, "So was your client there and did she in fact sign that?"

(At this point is when I had to ask myself, "When did Brad Conway lose control of his client, again?")

People in the room were quietly telling her to "let Mr. Morgan ask you a question", so when Morgan calmly said, again, "Let me ask you a question" she blurted out loudly and in control, "Go ahead! Ask me a question!"

Morgan said," You said you have prepared to get ready today because (Cindy says "yes") this is an important day ("Yes.Yes") for you. And you said one of the things you did in the preparation was that you examined the signature from "See Zenaida Gonzales at Sawgrass apartments ("Right, from the discovery")  from the discovery."

Morgan continued, "And you said you're here to clear this Zenaida Gonzales' name."

Cindy answered, "Correct."

"Isn't it true mam, that the date that you examined that signature was on June 17th," Morgan asked.

Cindy leaned forward in her chair and said, "NO! The date that I examined that signature was two days ago"

Morgan asked, "When you examined that document did you not find that Zenaida Gonzales was at that apartment on June 17th, 2008... YES or NO and I know that's the way you..." Cindy interrupts again and said, "I don't know  unless I know that's her signature. If that's her signature then the answer is yes, if it's not her signature then it's 'I don't know'. Is that fair to say that?"

Morgan said it was more than fair. Cindy evidently felt that it was her turn to ask the attorney a question and said, "Okay, then is that her signature?"

Morgan ignored her question and said, "And, finally, isn't it true (Cindy looks over, gives a smirking smile and winks at someone) that two days before Zenaida Gonzales signed that in Sawgrass, Casey Anthony, your daughter, had a fight with the family and left the family  and didn't return for 30 days and was hanging out at Sawgrass apartments and would have had time to see this person (his client) and would have had the time to talk to people about her visit to Sawgrass apartments?"

Cindy said, "No. Because we did not have an argument."

Morgan said, "Take the argument out. Isn't it a fact that even if there's no argument, as you say, that Casey left the home, that during those two days, she had the opportunity to go where her friends lived at Sawgrass, to hang out at Sawgrass, to sleep at Sawgrass and to see this person pull in and to get information about Zeneida Gonzales being at the Sawgrass Apartments."

Morgan tried to get a "yes" or "no" out of Cindy, but, she said, "But, she would have called the Sheriffs department that it was "see Zenaida Gonzale and not Zenaida Gonzales."

Morgan asked if it (the question) was fair to say, and Cindy yelled, "No! No! It's not fair to say!"

"And why is that?", said Morgan.

Cindy said, "Because if you're saying that Casey's accusing her (pointing at Zenaida) then on her statement on July 16th, she would have said the nanny was 'see Zenaida Gonzale' with out a Z on it. And, where does the Fernandez come in? Casey gave that".

Mr. Morgan tried to get a word in edgewise while Cindy said, "So there you go Mr. Morgan. Where did she get the Fernandez? Where did you get the Fernandez? Why don't you tell the camera and all the viewers out there where Fernandez came from. It's not on her DMV record. That's part of our homework, too."

Morgan said, "Casey, your daughter...(pointing at Zenaida. What's your date of birth?)..mam, please. ( 10-1-1970?)...Brad, for God sake this is outrageous."

Cindy shouts, "It's not outrageous."

Morgan reminded her, "This is a court proceeding. This is going to be played at a trial at some date.(Cindy shrugs her shoulders) For your own good, please stop."

As Conway tries to calm her she tells him, "I got it out. Yeah, my chest is pounding . It hurts. I got it out."

Then she said, "He's got to prove it now. He opened the door." Then she turned to Morgan and said, "Thank you."

"Thank you Mr. Morgan. Thank you. I'm done," Cindy spouts as she gives him another smug look and takes a swig from her water bottle."

"Your going to be thanking me for something else here in a minute," Morgan replies.

"I'm thanking because you opened the door. Because you said she (Zenaida) signed it that day. So now you gotta prove, "Cindy came back with.

Morgan started the deposition stating, "Casey, your daughter, was at the Sawgrass apartments."

Cindy, "I don't know.

Morgan, "She had friends at Sawgrass apartments who lived there, didn't she?"

Morgan asked her if Casey had friends who lived at the Sawgrass apartments and Cindy said she didn't know if she had friends living there on the 15th, 16th 17th, or not.

"And you don't know if she was visiting people there on the 17th, do you?", Morgan asked.

Cindy, "No."

Morgan, "So if she was, you wouldn't know one way or the other."

Cindy,"Correct."

Morgan, 'So, you've come here to clear this woman."

Cindy, "That's correct."

Morgan said, "Let's go all the way back to the beginning. You've been told by the police officers that your daughter had identified or cleared this woman (his client) in a line-up. And, that this was not the Zeneiada Gonzalez(his client), the police told you that, correct?"

Cindy, "The police told me that, correct." 

Morgan said, "And then you went to meet with Casey and she told you that she had never seen a line up and never said to you that that (his client) wasn't the person, correct?"

Cindy, "Correct."

* And then mam...and this is what you're going to thank me for... And, then to spite that fact, and to spite that lie that you knew, you went on TV and said this was the person ("no I did not") Mam, we have played th... let me finish. (She argues, anyway, but, he talks over her this time) You went on television, and instead of clearing this person's name when you had the opportunity, on television, to clear this person's name, even though the police had told you that Casey had told you that this Zeneida Gonzalez that was the person she picked out, you went on TV and did not clear her name that night, did you?"

Cindy said "No, because I did not..."

"Yes or no, the way you like it! Yes or no, the way you like it!!!", Morgan said while pounding on a desk.

"No, because I didn't know that her name was C. Zenaida Gonzale or know I would have cleared her name."

Morgan said, "Let's not play games!"

"I said Zany on there (the video clip) I didn't say C. Zanana (slip of the tongue). What's the C Stand for? Zanana (another slip of the tongue) is probably her middle name, " Cindy retorted.

(Cindy has now lost control and is clearly shaken.)

Morgan, "You knew, when you went on TV that night, that this woman (his client) is not Zaneida Gonzalez and you did not clear her name. Did you YES or NO??? If you dare."

Cindy, "No.".

Morgan, "Thank you."

"And, then mam, in fact you published the defamation and you slander this woman yourself in that publication. Isn't that true, yes or no."

Cindy, "No."

Morgan, "That's all I have, thank you."

Cindy:

Part 1

http://www.wftv.com/video/19145754/index.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_9am&ts=T&tmi=orlc_9am_1_08000104102009

Part 2

http://www.wftv.com/video/19145913/index.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_12pm&ts=T&tmi=orlc_12pm_1_10500204102009

Part 3

http://www.wftv.com/video/19146248/index.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_9am&ts=T&tmi=orlc_9am_1_08000104102009

Part 4

http://www.wftv.com/video/19146318/index.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_12pm&ts=T&tmi=orlc_12pm_1_10500204102009

Part 5

http://www.wftv.com/video/19147054/index.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_12pm&ts=T&tmi=orlc_12pm_1_10500204102009

George:

Part 1

http://www.wftv.com/video/19140766/index.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_9am&ts=T&tmi=orlc_9am_1_08000104102009

Part 2

http://www.wftv.com/video/19141143/index.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_9am&ts=T&tmi=orlc_9am_1_08000104102009

Part 3

http://www.wftv.com/video/19141290/index.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_9am&ts=T&tmi=orlc_9am_1_08000104102009

Part 4

http://www.wftv.com/video/19141367/index.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_9am&ts=T&tmi=orlc_9am_1_08000104102009

Part 5

http://www.wftv.com/video/19141394/index.html?treets=orlc&tml=orlc_9am&ts=T&tmi=orlc_9am_1_08000104102009

Another interesting video is after the deposition when she starts yelling at George (and Brad Conway???).  I've been up all night listening to the tapes and taking notes. I told Owize1 about the videos , when he woke up Friday morning, and said I expected that George and Cindy probably fought a lot last night when they got home, as their testimonies, again, are inconsistent. It looks like Cindy didn't wait to get home....

http://www.wftv.com/video/19140766/index.html

I only have a couple of things to ask the Anthony's. In what way did you help your daughter, today? And, Caylee, Cindy?

You just don't "get it".

04-09-09

Complaints Filed Against Baez

Jose Baez is being accused of an ethics violation in the Casey Anthony case, and the Florida Bar Assn. is investigating the complaint.

The allegation is that Baez told Dominic Casey, Anthony's former PI, that if he found Caylee's remains to avoid calling 911.

At least two people have filed new complaints against Baez, and one is Circuit Judge Stan Strickland. According to a WFTV article, this will not automatically disqualify Strickland from the case.

Dominic Casey told detectives he would've called 911 if he had found Caylee in November, but also that he was told not to call 911 by someone he apparently identified during an interview, which Judge Strickland sealed because it divulged defense secrets.

Judges usually handle trivial issues with attorneys by holding contempt of court hearings in their own courtrooms, so there could be a lot more to the complaint than has been revealed at this time.

Baez called the allegations "ridiculous."

Brad Conway, George and Cindy Anthony's lawyer, is also being investigated by the Florida Bar. Conway was with Dominic Casey when Dominic Casey gave investigators information that Judge Strickland later determined was privileged to the defense.

The Florida State Attorney's Office said the video and audio tapes of Anthony and two corrections officers were accidentally included in discovery released Tuesday, MyFOXOrlando.com reported.

As result, the public now can hear and see how she reacted when she first got word that the bones of her missing daughter Caylee Anthony were found in a plastic bag in a wooded lot.

Lt. Tammy Unser, one of the officers present, said Anthony "collapsed into a chair and started to do what appeared to be hyperventilating" when she heard the news on Dec.11, according to MyFOXOrlando.com.

But neither the audio nor the video recordings of the incident were supposed to be released to the media until Judge Stan Strickland heard an emergency motion filed by Anthony's defense team, the station said.

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http://www.clickorlando.com/mostpopular/19120145/detail.html

http://www.wftv.com/news/19130417/detail.html

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,513298,00.html 

        
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